READ THIS FIRST: Critique and Beta Reader Guidelines

Come here to request a critique of your work or find beta readers.
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READ THIS FIRST: Critique and Beta Reader Guidelines

Post by RonfarZ3 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:42 pm

Welcome to the Critiques and Beta Readers Forum!

This is long, but please read it over before joining in the fray (most of it was taken from the NaNoWriMo forum of the same purpose).
1. Your material posted here is public. It will be seen on Google searches. DO NOT post anything here you are not comfortable being seen and publicly searched. Posting short excerpts (less than 1,000 words) is preferred. A short excerpt allows you to tease and share the larger document privately.
2. Give, and ye shall receive. You've got a novel or short story and you want some feedback, so this is the place to put up a personal ad to find someone who'd like give it a test drive. It's considered good form to give critiques in return. There is no obligation to share your novel if you're just here giving feedback.
3. Please limit your posting of your work to 1,000 words or less. Be sure to carefully read over what you post BEFORE you hit submit... because you CANNOT edit original posts once they have been replied to. Use the preview button before posting.

How to Find a Reader
Create a "personal ad" for your novel or short story as a new topic. If it is a novel, start the topic name with “NOVEL:”. If it is a short story, start the topic name with “SHORT STORY:”. Then include the title of your work in the topic name.
This is the feedback form that ALL requests should include. Be sure to include these basic specs, which are basically the most commonly asked questions readers would have when selecting your novel or story. Delete the explanation when you copy and paste it. Failing to provide this information means that your potential critiquers don't know what kind of feedback they're offering!

Title:
Length, Draft and Language:
Brief Summary:
(300 words or less)
Sub Genre & Keywords: Just in case someone's looking for a novel that deals with "genetic engineering", "parable" or "elections." This will help your post come up in Search.
Known Issues: Let the readers know the weaknesses you're aware of that they don't need to comment on. This is not an apology, and shouldn't be longer than the summary! (You can include more with the draft.)
Critique Requested: What do you want feedback on? Plot, a pass at the structure, tone, POV, grammar, character development, continuity?
Critique Tolerance: Do you just want broad strokes and all the positive things or can you tolerate some of the more stark realities?
Experience & Goals: Is this your first novel or short story? Are you looking to publish? Have you sent it out already and it just isn't clicking with publishers? What are your plans? (Be brief but help people understand what sort of critique would be helpful at this juncture.)
Method of Communication: Do you want to email? Chat? Send snail mail versions of marked up manuscripts? (Don't post your email address directly on the forums unmangled... our forums are trolled by spammers, and your email will be harvested and spammed as a result.)
Anything else? Disclaimers (violence, strong language, graphic sex, etc.) Mention turnaround time for feedback if you have any deadlines.
Optional excerpt: Remember to keep it less than 1,000 words.

How to Find a Novel to Read
• Browse the listings for the novels.
• Pick one or more that interest you.
• Send a PM to the person and continue from there!
• Don't promise more than you can deliver.
• Don't create a thread asking for novels or stories to read/edit.

Giving Critiques
1. Tell them what you see. Sometimes the strongest feedback a writer can get is knowing what you got out of it. Parrot what you think the themes or style is like.
2. Critique the writing, not the writer
3. Don't give critiques on material you know you would never like
4. Don't tell the writer how to write, just how to accomplish their goals

Some overall tips: reading and reviewing makes you better and editing your own work. So if you're stuck in your own process, take some time off and check in with other writers. You'd be amazed at how it can open you up to new possibilities in your own writing.

So, you've put yourself out there, you're waiting to hear from someone, and you're dying to know what they have to say.

What should you expect from your critiques? Honesty, criticism, and insight from someone not in your head. Beyond that, the more important question is what not to expect.

What NOT to expect from this forum:
1. Immediate, enthusiastic response - There is no way to force someone to read your work, and there will always be more people wanting critiques than those willing to give them. People may be busy writing and not available to give immediate feedback.
2. Consistently positive feedback - when you do get feedback, be prepared for the fact that it may not be what you want to hear. It may be harsher than you expected, or a little too honest. This is doubly true if you haven't been clear about what sort of feedback you're looking for.
3. Professional input - Most people here are novices, and if you do get someone to critique your work, they may not be as skilled as others. That's okay, and don't be upset if this happens. This is a learning process for everyone involved, and the BEST way to learn about writing is to critique someone else's work. If your critique was lackluster, have no fear; maybe next time it will be better.

What can you do to improve your chances?
**Hook us! Think of this as a practice run for publishers... use this opportunity to hone your hook, bait your readers, and build interest. You've got a few seconds at best to snag someone's interest... use it wisely. If you can't be enthusiastic about your own work, how can you expect us to be?

**Be patient. Even if someone agrees to critique your work, it will take time to do so, and nagging won't help. And constantly bumping the topic and posting in multiple places won't help.

If you have any questions about this forum, or your topic, or whatever.. don't hesitate to ask the moderators. :) They're here to help! If you have a thread or comment that you would like removed, report it to the moderators with an explanation of why you'd like it removed (Generally, we don't mind deleting excerpts you've posted.)
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